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My Hunt for Hard Times with Viagra Generics
05-29-2016, 03:53 PM
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My Hunt for Hard Times with Viagra Generics
My Hunt for Hard Times with Viagra Generics
By Dave in Phoenix
(Sildenafil citrate aka Suhagra or Silagra), research and price comparisons

In my old age, I have been getting a bit limp at times Smile

My last Canada trip, 50mg (100mg tablets spit) partially failed me in the release phase of the many nude-reverse adult body rubs I love so much in Canada (Mississauga special thanks to Hazel, Mayor for 36 years before retired in 2014 at age 93!) No silly tipping games or legal issues. 40 minutes for about $CDN140=about $US100. I wish nude reverse was available in Phoenix since I enjoy massaging gals as much as receiving (non-sexual Esalen) with often a great response.

For my upcoming trip, I did extensive research to find lower cost Viagra alternatives.

As folks know, Viagra is still VERY expensive in the U.S., $20-$30/pill. On Canadian boards, similar costs are reported for Pfizer's brand. Their patent extension doesn't expire until late 2020. However, Teva in Israel has an agreement to start distribution in the U.S. in late 2017, but the price is unknown. However, it is reported that due to a paperwork error in Pfizer's extension application in Canada, the generic is now legally available in Canada, as well as U.K., Turkey, India and I believe New Zealand.

Generics can be a mass scam with many false websites including some from Canada trying to sell fake Viagra that have been shut down by HeathCanada. Buying Viagra/generic Sildenafil online without a prescription is dangerous. A peer-reviewed study about online pharmacies showed that online pharmacies that are not credentialed by, or other credentialing groups, and don’t require a prescription, are more likely to sell counterfeit Viagra, including fakes with dangerous ingredients.

Herbal products such as extracts of Yohimbe bark were used for erectile dysfunction before there was Viagra, but, due to inferior efficacy, they are now rarely used. However, for very mild ED they might work.

In my research, I found two support forums which have zillions of prostate cancer patients that have had surgery sharing their getting hard challenges. After surgery, many are limp (ED) but recover in varying degrees after a year or so. Many talk about being are helped by Viagra and share legitimate lower cost sources. On one site their signature shows their Gleason score, Biopsy results and where they had their surgery (many at Sloan Kettering in NYC).

Many patients report great results from generics from certain sites. A popular site was from India, where it was called appropriately "Manly." However that site was hacked and once it became legal is Canada most patients switched to a specific Canadian site. Many report as good or some even better results than the expensive Pfizer Viagra.

It is important to be sure the online Pharmacy is certified by Pharmacy Checker or "CIPARx." The source I use is also regulated by the College of Pharmacists of BC.

Comparative pricing 100mg tabs:
Walgreens "Value Priced" Pfizer Viagra 6 tabs for $124.99 ($21/pill) and some druggists are more expensive. This is what I used to pay!

Canada examples are in $US:
Canada example Pfizer 16 tabs for $359/$22.44 each, about the same, is in the U.S. at Walgreens for Pfizer.

Legitimate Generic Sildenafil - same active ingredient as Pfizer:
30 pills, 100mg for $99.00 ($3.30 each) + $10 shipping, which is what I ordered. I will test drive it more completely on my upcoming 10-day trip to Mississauga. However, I am not totally a good test since I seem to be borderline whether I need it or not. However, I will use it just to be sure ... I work!

The same site offers choices of manufacturers it uses for generic Sildenafil. It is slightly cheaper if you choose a manufacturer in Turkey or U.K. but delivery time is at least 4-8 weeks since it cannot be shipped directly to the U.S. It has to be shipped first to Canada and then reshipped to the U.S. At $3.30 I choose a Canadian source, as I trusted it more than others and wanted to be sure to get before my upcoming Canadian trip! I received it in about two weeks. You fax your prescription to them along with a copy of your drivers license. Any reputable source will require a Rx from a doctor that has seen you in person. My Dr gave me Rx for 30 with 8 refills which should last a few years! They came in small packages of 4 each so easy to travel with a few not take a big bottle!

The cost of 50mg pills is only a few dollars less than 100mg so if you only need 50mg a pill splitter works great.

When I first started using it a few years ago, I had the minor bluish brighter white vision side effect. That went away in maybe 30 minutes and only the initial few times. Other men can have various side effects that usually are minor and goes away with repeated use.
Legal Issues ongoing fight to keep foreign drugs out of U.S. to protect drug profits:
Highlights 2/10/2016 from moneytalknews.
Importing drugs from overseas is illegal, so this has implications if you rely on online pharmacies that are outside the United States.

Officials at the Food and Drug Administration told the New York Times that the agency “typically does not object” to people buying imported medicine for personal use “under certain circumstances.” The circumstances include purchasing less than a three-month supply.

Although the FDA rarely prosecutes individuals importing medications for their personal use, the government does crack down on overseas pharmacies. Recently U.S. Customs and Border Protection seized such packages to “protect the consumer from harm,” reported Medscape.

If your order is seized in such a crackdown, you may never receive the medication or the money you paid.

In the recent raid, federal customs agents seized 50,000 packages spanning 115 countries — the largest crackdown to date on those selling prescription medicines online, according to International Business Times. In addition, 1,050 online pharmacies in 115 countries were raided or warned, 2,414 websites selling prescription drugs were shut down, and about 550 online advertisements were removed in the international crackdown.

The FDA also sent warning letters to the operators of 400 online pharmacies that sell unapproved or mislabeled medicines or medical devices and seized 814 parcels containing antidepressants, hormone replacement therapies, and drugs to treat high cholesterol and erectile dysfunction at international mailrooms in New York, Chicago and Miami.

According to a report by NPR, researchers from the National Bureau of Economic Research ordered samples of drugs commonly used by Americans — including Viagra, Celebrex, Lipitor, Nexium, and Zoloft — from 41 online pharmacies based in the United States, Canada, Australia, Europe or Asia. The researchers selected the pharmacies through online searches, just as consumers do.

The results: The 328 medication samples they tested that were obtained from any type of certified pharmacy were found to be legitimate. Those that were certified by PharmacyChecker and the Canadian International Pharmacy Association were half as expensive as the drugs ordered from U.S.-based outlets.
Dave notes this issue has been discussed on the prostate cancer patient sites and none have reported having their shipments seized using known legitimate online pharmacies.

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05-30-2016, 11:52 PM
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RE: My Hunt for Hard Times with Viagra Generics
Someone send me a message showing prices even worse vs my $3.30 from Canada:

2009 prices are way off now, Dave. This afternoon out of curiosity I passed the Walmart pharmacy and asked the tech. She punched up 47.00 a V pill 50mg, Cialis 53.00 (no dose) and Levitra she punched but I told her forget it. Either way, an expensive date!

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